You came to aiming systems because of all the discussion and development of systems that Hal developed. From. Billiards (RSB) describing how only 3 lines were required to make nearly all cut shots on a 2:1 pool table with angles from 0 to about 90 degrees. Hal and CTE have been hotly debated for many years. It's this period of time that Jimmy Moore incorporated his pivot aiming technique. #1. Hal said he could probably teach me his aiming system in 15 minutes. Hal told me to stop before I got into that trench. Jan 20, 2013 #63 Patrick Johnson said:Some (mostly undercooked) food for thought about aiming system benefits for everybody. Search titles only. . I had a lesson fron Stan Shuffet and have had a phone conversation Hal Houle. On the first occasion I spoke to him for a while, and then I played on the adjacent table while he schooled a couple people for several hours. See this image: The pivot point is the pink dot on the cue. The black lines represent the Center-to-Edge aim and the resultant undercutting that would result. Hal Houle invented it about 7 or 8 DECADES ago and called it Shiskebob. By: Search Advanced search…In your best interpretation of a professional pool player or professional instructor, PLEASE DEFINE FEEL IN AIMING. Christopher lives on the same street as the following people: Roshelly Aviles · Susan M Heffelfinger · Anne E Vonneida · Hal Houle · Julia B Houle · Andrea J Partridge · David A Partridge · K Partridge · Sonia S Houle · Paula M Santos · Dana M Hackman · Trevor L Hackman · Scott Morgan · Mark E Barowski · Ann M Polukis · Michele M. from Hal Houle: There are only 3 angles for any shot, on any size table. There are only two ways to be lined up on a shot, either on the correct aiming line to make the shot or on the incorrect. He was born on November 4, 1931 in Darby, Pennsylvania. I use Hal Houle's "3 aim line" method, which I use CTE as a double check to see if I'm aligned right. I commented that, from my recollection, Hal Houle was a decent guy and had always been forthcoming in our prior discussions. Silver Member. A. . These guys want to act like it's supposed to be some magical event that Stan claims makes the ball. 23 years ago Hal Houle threw out a claim and teaser on an early internet group called. Ask The InstructorIt's a useless question, no one knows. I think you can practice while day dreaming - Hal said line them up and wack um. . well know and RESPECTED Master BCA instructor will be teaching one of Hal. There is a link for an interview with Jimmy and Rick Owens, his relative, just before he passed. Hal was an eccentric guy who would call you by phone while you were at a table and talk you through his various methods of using CTE while also regaling you of stories about his buddy Ralph Greenleaf. Hal Houle was without a doubt the greatest LATERAL THINKER in history when it came to POOL AIMING SYSTEMS! He developed over 20 aiming systems for pool and each one was way OUTSIDE THE BOX VISUALLY and in PERFORMANCE. this came about with lateral thinking - thinking far outside the box by hal houle and then stan shuffett. By: Search Advanced search…I'm grateful for you Stan and for Hal houle. I've always been eager to hear anything that Stan had to say, especially when it comes to pool. Ron Vitello also teaches one that is dubbed 90/90 which is also incredibly precise and accurate. Instruction & Ask the pros. The pro's answer would be 4 + 0 = 4. I'd like to post his name but I. The quality was amazing and I can’t wait to take pics in these two piece sets. ROTFLMAO!! I can see all members of the Fab5 clicking on this thread hoping I saw the light like they have. A. I have read a few CTE threads but not really posted much. NO ADJUSTMENT IS NECESSARY unless you have situations like sticky/dirty balls or highly polished balls. Your mind’s eye can easily perceive each of the 500 shots referenced above as ‘one’. We identified 117 records related to "Paul Houle" in the state of Florida. I am aiming base on the hal houle system but using the edge of shaft to aiming point. From the very first ball i. The following was passed on to me by someone who was there in the loop and a close friend of Hal. 5 years ago. Tom Simpson was 20 years younger than Hal. Any system based on a limited number of lines of aim will obviously not cover a wide range of shotsHi guys. I will use every comment by you that fits that goal and there are many. S. I like Mike's method in actual games, makes things much easier, no thinking or guessing. How does Hal Houle’s three-angle system work? Hal Houles’ 3-angle system is a type of fractional-ball aiming system. Hal Houle was the first that I heard of that was teaching it, and I believe it was his system. There are some DVDs on the subject. Was great to hear his stories. In another pool forum they have discussed for at least thirty pages of threads, Hal Houle's aiming system. Literally the week before Hal sought me out I spent several hours on the table with my friend Chris McDaniel working on a. You only get down to 8 cut angles with the OB about 6" away from the pocket. Hals's version started with an "inside cue tip" placement on the CB aiming to the same three spots on the OB as this guy and then pivoting back to center. Jan 16, 2020. To the "Putdown Posse", Mr. . Efren: Oh, aim. Search titles only. Mary Lou Houle, resident of Toledo, Ohio, passed away November 21, 2022 at the age of 92. pj chgo . If you, as a pool enthusiast and player are interested in improving your game by becoming proficient with CTE (Center To Edge) Aiming, it won't be here. Was great to hear his stories. Conversely I have shown aiming systems to some good players and had them give me a confused look and decide that they didn't want to bother with it EVEN IF they agreed that it might help them. . Basically, the claim is there are only three different aims for all cut shots: a “15° cut,” a “30° cut,” and a “45° cut. Some people do it automatically while others spend hours and many aiming systems trying to find it. 5 = 4. . I am aiming base on the hal houle system but using the edge of shaft to aiming point. Any videos of Jimmy from around this period, included the video cited in this thread, clearly show Jimmy pivoting into center ball from. Anyone that wants to give this an honest try, please do so and report back to this post. . . Jul 25, 2005. I was very lucky yesterday to spend a day visiting Hal Houle. Silver Member. I was very lucky yesterday to spend a day visiting Hal Houle. I'm going to explain how to shoot this shot into the upper right corner pocket using real CTE. None of them were related to math and geometry. . . . If you can run all 15, more power to you. "Hal" Harold G. that includes reyes, souquet, archer, ortman, bustamante, and on and on. The common fractional-ball aiming system, sometimes referred to as Hal Houle’s 3-angle system. The first time started 26 years ago with Hal Houle and then those who followed. WATERTOWN – Barbara Houle passed into the loving arms of God in the early morning hours of July 30, 2023. . He was born on November 4, 1931 in Darby, Pennsylvania. Hal is no longer with us, but fortunately, he showed his breakthrough systems to many players. Think About It. . Ask The InstructorI'm pretty sure he was from the Albuquerque neck of the woods. I do have a slight background as I have had some interaction with some of the CTE names. What is it exactly? How is it used in. 484 623 4144" I must admit I was a little nervous calling him out of the blue to talk about one of the most highly controversial and heated topics that has ever been discussed on the AZbilliards website--Aiming one sphere to another sphere the same way but at different distances and getting the same consistent result. Im guessing this is based on possible points for the QB and object ball. I don't usually visit or participate in forums other than the "Mail Forum," and maybe others are the same way. hal houle. Stan reveals how the 30 perception was "king" with Hal Houle. I think Hal's latest way of describing it, the "3-point" version where. Honestly no matter what "system" you use if you do not have a consistent stroke, a straight stroke, and good fundamentals, the want to get better, and. To Hal Houle for seeking me out in Denver and introducing me to aiming systems. Stan has worked for years on developing CTE/Pro One and that is. . . You know this is false. and I get all da rolls. By: Search Advanced search…Search titles only. I read morhts article but I would like further clarification. . According to both the inventor of CTE (Hal Houle) and Stan himself, Stan Shuffet’s CTE Pro One only works because the table has 2x1 dimensions. . you have nothing to lose. Then carried it over to here when this site was put. JB CASES 21 videos 45,079 views Last updated on Mar 16, 2021 Play all Shuffle 1 0:27 DrDaves-Test JB CASES • 15K views • 13 years ago 2 9:20 Why Ghost. . Hal called it his three angle document. Also, now in effect, all. I've kept the thread alive as there is a discussion below on the book) Amazon published my book on Ralph Greenleaf,. There were so many that were disrespectful and that is one if the things I despise about AZB. Oct 12, 2022 #56 phreaticus said:A CTE/PRO ONE video is coming! The video will present the exact visual nature of CTE. . Because Hal Houle and Stan Shuffett created them Click to expand. Silver Member. Hal and I had only a phone relationship, never having met him in person. Houle is a surname. For the newer amongst you who have been reading about Hal Houle and his systems, here is a description that is I believe in his own words. If you want to learn more about these and other -shot aiming systems, seecut the . . I had a lesson fron Stan Shuffet and have had a phone conversation Hal Houle. . To read the pool playing tutorial for the Hal Houle Point and Pivot System, click the link to go on to the full pool playing tips article. He must have been up in his 80's; not sure. Search titles only. Hal Houle said that there are only 3 angles that are important. If you and I were on a table for me to show you, you'd easily agree. Houle, speaking of CTE's primary 3 aiming points (15, 30, 45 deg, aka 1/4b fractions): "Your only requirement is to recognize whether your shot is a 15, 30, or 45° angle. . Search titles only. you have nothing to lose. Hal Houle has taught a lot of people CTE and one of the people who took it a lot more seriously than the rest of the people is a guy named Stan Shuffett. These techniques are all referred to as “offset and pivot” systems. How it's advertised is as an objective aiming system with zero feel or subconscious involvement. Aiming ConversationI will be at Q-masters on the final Saturday of the US Open. He has created several different systems to help people play better. If there were 10 Commandments of CTE this would be the first one. Mr. . The one we've heard about here is the. every top player uses the same pro aiming system. . By: Search Advanced search…Search titles only. He has never stopped after 25 years. ALL of Hal Houle's systems had the exact same foundation. we know that you and Hal were close. i do not charge you for anything, it is simple enough that i can teach you over the phone. 0. It's not, every combination of perception, left or right cut, sweep or pivot direction, etc,,,, will result in the same. I have to say that Hal Houle gave me the aiming perspective that I use about 90 percent of the time. Mary Lou Houle 04/11/1930 - 11/21/2022Mary Lou Houle, resident of Toledo, Ohio, passed away November 21, 2022 at the age of 92. Search titles only. I can unabashedly say that I stole the Sailor's system en toto and reproduced it in my book. Silver Member. you aim the left quarter, center and right quarter of the CB (the "3. There are literally a zillion possible shots on a 5,000 square inch playing surface. I have been shooting pool off and on for about 25 years, so if I am using one, I would have to assume it is the ghost ball, but I cannot tell. By: Search Advanced search…Some of the personalities go back 15 years or more where we had the same disagreements about Hal Houle's "3 angles" fractional system on RSB. Article posted in: Billiards Forum -> Cue Sports -> Pool Playing Tips -> Aiming and Execution Tutorials. Hal Houle's Aiming Center to Edge etc. on RSB. As per Hal Houle, CTE DOES NOT work with the vision center directly over the actual shot line, or NISL as Stan describes it. But, sorry to disappoint because IT DOES WORK. I was very lucky yesterday to spend a day visiting Hal Houle. Here's another juicy secret I call Pivot Aim, used by Johnny Archer and Efren Reyes, and taught by me, Hal Houle and others to an elite few before this article. Looking forward to some positive recollections of Hal and his theories and methods. If there were 10. Aiming ConversationAs per Hal Houle, CTE DOES NOT work with the vision center directly over the actual shot line, or NISL as Stan describes it. To Hal Houle for seeking me out in Denver and introducing me to aiming systems. . )From the very first ball i hit with Hal Houle on the other end of the phone . There are 3 court records for "Paul Houle" in "Broward County". Instruction & Ask the pros. If you would like a copy, email me atThe answers I received, from Houle followers, defied the laws of geometry and, as such, were absurd. Most are good honest requests to learn. I don't understand half of Spidey's post but I compeletly understand what he means. Search titles only. Most would say 2 + 2 = 4, others 1 + 3 = 4, 3 + 1 = 4 or 1. The 15 - 30 - and 45. 5railkick said: I read on the other forum that Hal uses a 2 angle method to aim every shot. These guys want to act like it's supposed to be some magical event that Stan claims makes the ball. Therefore a cue ball has 360 ticks and an object ball has 360 ticks at their respective circumferences. Yeah, I know - I know, if Hal did something it MUST be bogus and witchcraft. Was great to hear his stories. this is what makes systems work is the. What is the Supposed Phenomenon of Center to Edge Aiming? This thread is an attempt to garner for ALL concerned. – Hal Houle’s 3-angle system – Hit-A-Million-Balls (HAMB) aiming system – How to Aim Pool Shots (HAPS) – limited lines or alignments of aim – midpoint parallel-shift aiming system – 90/90 pivot-based aiming system – parallel-lines systems – Perfect Aim – pivot-based system issues – Pro One – shaft-edge aiming system The common fractional-ball aiming system, sometimes referred to as Hal Houle’s 3-angle system. When I first started on the various forums nearly. Search titles only. . from Hal Houle: There are only 3 angles for any shot, on. . A few years ago I was working on an aiming system of my own design (as far as I know this is my own design, I may have been inspired by something I've seen, but I don't think so). Forum omniscient ones scoffed, belittled, and beat it into the ground mainly. add another ball that can be used with. I do have a slight background as I have had some interaction with some of the CTE names. In my opinion if you HONESTLY wanted to learn CTE then. Anyone that wants to give this an honest try, please do so and report back to this post. Whether it be Hal Houle’s Center-to-Edge, Stan Shuffett’s Pro1 or Ron Vitello’s 90/90, offset and pivot systems afford players objective and repeatable methods. . I think asking someone about contact points would be like asking them the answer to x + y = 4. Hal is 83 and has forgotten more about pool than I will ever know. Hal Houle changed my life. . A. Loading…I've been using basic CTE for awhile, but using older information. Condolences to his wife and family. Very sorry to hear about Hal Houle's passing. This is Low500 at N. Started playing in 1934. pj chgo . Hal Houle told this story to me a good number of years ago and he told it to everyone he talked to on the phone starting back in the 1990's. It's reduced so much that it literally becomes point and shoot with no. By: Search Advanced search…I really was hesitant to bring this up and face the wrath of khan if this has already been clearly explained but I can't find it so can someone please point. Hal is 83 and has forgotten more about pool than I will ever know. Instruction & Ask the pros. Wouldn't be. I watched all dvds I listed above and they are some good and some bad. I was a pretty good friend to Hal for over 20 years. Hal Houle Point and Pivot System. I found a post from 2009 from someone who said Hal Houle told them the guy was an awesome player from out of Cochrans, another was the Ripleys Believe it or not post in one of Bob Byrnes books about the 180 ball run. Maybe it was already a given between us and we worked on other things. instructors do not have a clue about aiming systems. First he told me to forget. I personally enjoyed his stories of his own personal life the most and called him many times just to. Hal Houle was a very unique individual! Hal was intelligent, had a great wit and lived a long, varied and interesting life. They're very similar with the exception of starting out with an inside of center alignment to parts of the OB and then pivoting back to CCB with Shish. 3 angles for all shots, on any size pool table, including snooker & bar tables. His method consisted of the ABC lines on the object ball and the center and edge of the cue ball. Search titles only. He has a beautiful 4 1/2 x 9 Diamond table and light. Too bad and bullshit if that's the mindset. Hal is 83 and has forgotten more about pool than I will ever know. M is a by-product of Hal Houle's teaching. left side of shaft to right left and right side of the shaft to go right. by Billiards Forum Webmaster | May 1, 2011 | Aiming and Execution Tutorials for Billiards | 0 comments. If the dimensions are other than 2x1, logically, then CTE will no longer work. Conversely I have shown aiming systems to some good players and had them give me a confused look and decide that they didn't want to bother with it EVEN IF they agreed that it might help them. - Ruiary Byrne, CTE discussion group on FB. 403 court search results for people named "Paul Houle" in the United States. In TP A. Recognizing those. That "7 fractions" stuff is total BALONEY and I have no idea where that got pulled out of. . Both of these men are right. We located 1 sex offender matching the name "Paul Houle" in the US. instead of you nose fitting up into the bridge of the frame - by turning. . . Nov 12, 2019 - Answers to frequently-asked questions about Hal Houle's 3-angle aiming system. So, since I'm in an endless training period, I had to have one. And by honest try, I mean give it at least 10 tries, hopefully. All of which are very interesting and Ive been mixing and matching depending on the shot but for easy shots, I still use the ghostball system. Both are deadly ways to pocket balls, contrary to what has been claimed by a small. – Hal Houle’s 3-angle system – Hit-A-Million-Balls (HAMB) aiming system – How to Aim Pool Shots (HAPS) – limited lines or alignments of aim – midpoint parallel-shift aiming system – 90/90 pivot-based aiming system. #1. I'll never be a good player, but I try all the time to improve. How does Hal Houle’s three-angle system work? Hal Houles’ 3-angle system is a type of fractional-ball aiming system. HOULEHarold G. Hal Houle definitely made life easier for the aiming process of pocketing balls. Stan Shuffett. . Instruction & Ask the pros. Apr 24, 2017 #98 cookie man said: I got immediate results from CTE. I thought to myself, that idea. I was a pretty good friend to Hal for over 20 years. ) I will be more than happy. I watched a great match between Cowboy Jimmy Moore and Wimpy Luther Lassiter that was on Classic ESPN the other day. cookie man AzB Silver Member. . What they have figured out works and for some reason that bothers you. every top player uses the same pro aiming system. Hal Houle, the person I will call the father of all this, had many many many variations and systems. In addition to Hal Houle being attacked and his work ridiculed by the anti-CTE saviors for the rest of mankind, the most vilified person in the history of pool is the person so intrigued by Hal's thinking and creations that he wanted to finally solve the riddle, and has, is Stan Shuffett. hal houle. If you want. Just sayin'. Jul 25, 2005. . B. as long as the thread stays alive, and you post. Some players took as long as 6 seconds before pulling. The Hal Houle Point and Pivot system is a billiard aiming system that uses the geometry, layout, and design of a pool table, as well as some common assumptions to help you determine the appropriate spot on the object ball to strike with the cue ball. Hal Houle. JOEY AGUZIN Feb 17, 2003, 1:13:44 PM to Well, I haven't confirmed this rumor but have it on good authority that a well know and RESPECTED Master BCA instructor will be. M is aiming by the numbers. Hal Houle had ways of explaining and doing it and we definitely know where you're coming from when his name is mentioned. My goal, to which I am willing to dedicate a good amount towards, is to promote the aiming systems of Hal Houle and those who teach them. To Freddie Agnir and others for spending time on the table showing what you learned from Hal and being willing to help. As I stated in another post, Hal Houle had over 20 other aiming systems beside CTE. . Unfortunately, it might be expensive to call him from your house in Russia. the method fits the definition. Search titles only. Koop - it works, I'm just not smart enough to grasp itOn the other hand, in honor of Hal Houle I can also say there is only one shot on a pool table! Hu Click to expand. Instruction & Ask the pros. S. Koop - it works, I'm just not smart enough to grasp itOn the other hand, in honor of Hal Houle I can also say there is only one shot on a pool table! Hu Click to expand. Stan called this phenomenon “something that was. To me, the bold and red highlighted parts seem to indicate that Hal did not believe that the system described was able to directly pocket all balls on the table. Just very different ways of seeing the two balls,. On the first occasion I spoke to him for a while, and then I played on the adjacent table while he schooled a couple people for several hours. I just wanted to emphasize to some of the open minded around here that Houle was dead on the money with his diagnosis for this aiming thing and that old 'fraction thing' of Mosconi's has long been dead in the water. Watching the new "Truth Series" videos from Stan I get what is going on with the different lines. If there is one shot i really do not miss, regardless of pressure, it is the long straight ins. side (plus "real thin") no matter how you do it. Rodney Morris - portions of the object ball - from a personal interview with him in 2003 - no idea about currently. Perfect Aim, CTE, TOI, Hal Houle's systems come to mind. The Sport Palace was a unique place for sure. Obviously CTE was one of them and Shiskabob was another. It is a Small World After all. Aiming ConversationYou mean the same Hal Houle who said there are only three cut angles in pool because “pocket slop”, right? lol Being a pool professional doesn’t mean you know much - probably the opposite, in fact. It is looked upon as extrordinary, but it is a duplicate. Connie and I are beyond pleased! I left it all on the table: 38. Hal Houle developed over 20 aiming systems that had nothing to do with contact points or fractions. I don't care if I change your mind. And I listened. Firstly,I am not a research scientist or an engineer,but a billiard fan who wants 3 Cushion to grow to higher proportions/greater lenghts,so I would like to make the following suggestion: put more technology into billiard balls. A. Whether it be Hal Houle’s Center-to-Edge, Stan Shuffett’s Pro1 or Ron Vitello’s 90/90, offset and pivot systems afford players objective and repeatable methods of ball-pocketing (without the guesswork of ghost ball or other traditional methods. every top player uses the same pro aiming system. . When these methods are used the feel in aiming is reduced to almost zero. Would anyone who was taught by Hal,or have any stories they would like to share about the man Hal Houle, and give us. Now according what Hal Houle taught me and my friends is There is an Edges to use for cut shot and cut. There are. not so good, sorry. Sep 18, 2021 #53Stevie Moore - ProOne - derived from Hal Houle's systems as taught by Stan Shuffett Darren Appleton - Something similar to the S. (Houle's memory is somewhat hazy on the point. i do not charge you for anything, it is simple enough that i can teach you over the phone. For those who think he's guilty of false advertising and claims, you're.